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We never thought we’d be thinking about a digital version of Art of Conversation.

The idea behind the launch of our no-news newspaper was always to create an analogue only experience where the size, materials and design would entice you to slow down, to take time out from the digital hurly burly for the kind of contemplation that can feel like a luxury sometimes. We wanted to give you space to contemplate big ideas, and to use the ideas flowing from conversations between the world’s most creative thinkers as the spark for your own thinking.

However, when we started out in 2018 we could not have envisioned a situation where a global pandemic would do much the same kind of thing.

So here we are with the Art of Conversation Sampler. We have chosen six conversations from the first four issues of our print newspaper that we think give you a lot to chew over. We hope it gives you a taste of what Art of Conversation is about if you haven’t read it before

We have Ryan Gander and Cory Arcangel talking about their different attitudes to artists who paint (spoiler: it gets quite heated), and also the very different journeys they took to becoming contemporary artists.

There’s a lovely conversation between Zhang Enli and his friend and gallerist Neil Wenman which is quite poignant, covering nature, time and peace, which are all part of Enli’s practice.

Lead singer of the National Matt Berninger talks to the artist Stephen Butler about words, recovery and the essence of being and living as an artist.

Hannah Perry and Ed Fornieles talk about loneliness and the difficulties and impact of leading the life of a contemporary artist both on family and personal life.

The conceptualist Erwin Wurm and his friend Peter Morgan talk about what it means to be an artist, the value of being an outsider and the definition of success.

And finally, musician and record label owner Richard Russell and artist Toby Ziegler talk about analogue and digital creativity, the difference between the worlds of contemporary art and music, how it was to work together and their long time friendship.

We hope you enjoy your time with these conversations and if it has whetted your appetite for more, take a look at the archive of issues still available on our site. or for speed

Keep safe and healthy, we’ll see you soon.

Mark & Hannah Hayes-Westall